A2WH.COM
- Harvesting water from air
(AWG) Atmospheric Water Generator using solar energy -
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or USA 206-601-2985 or skype: joe.at.a2wh
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A2WH supports two distribution channels.
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A2WH offers Distributers
ordering more
than 10 units of any size.
the highest
margins.
Orders of several thousand units can provide
traditional channel margins.
Due to the size and weight of the system it is
generally most cost effective to order full
container loads.
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Sales Affiliate or Commissioned Agents receive comissions on orders they facilatate. The Sales Affiliate does not have to order any products directly. This is an inexpensive way to get involved and then you can increase your margins by switching over to become a Dealer if you obtain sufficient order volumes.
- A2WH does not allow exclusive distributer or exclusive manufacture representative for any region. There can be exceptions where a potential representative has paid a substantial franchise fee for the region or where they have pre-purchased over 10,000 units to open a new market or where they have purchased a significant amount the A2WH company. If you are not bringing substantial amounts of money to the table do not waste our time and your time trying to get A2WH to agree to exclusive relationships
Our A2WH system is in production. We produce each unit
as the orders are paid. There is generally a 90 day
ship time from the time order funds are deposited. We only
manufacture units for which we have received payment. Most
units are customized for the installation region.
All orders are placed in production queue in the order received which
creates some seasonal variation in the queue length.
Commissioned Agents
We also support commissioned agent
relationships wh
ere we pay you a commission on all deals you close
without requiring you to stock units. This commission rate
is obviously lower than the discount rates received for distributors
who are buying, stocking and installing inventory. We
have a large pool of referrals and we are only willing to pay
commissions on deals once so you may end up sharing commissions.
The only way we can guarantee payment is if you collect the
purchase order and payment from the customer. You do not have the
ability to bind A2WH so you must work closely with us to ensure you
have proper terms and pricing for the customer. You must
have an affiliate commission agreement in place before you qualify for
commissions. We do not support commission on referrals where you
do not close the deal and collect the customer purchase order.
Standard Unit
We offer a standard unit self contained
unit rated for 3 to 8 liters per day depending on region.
These are not customized and are shipped with identical
configuration. You can obtain larger systems simply by installing
multiple of these standard units. All other units are
custom configured for the installation location.
Sizing
Plan an installed size equal to 1 square meter per 2 to 5 liters of
water per day. Also plan on approximately 5 pounds of system per
pound of water produced per day. At 3 liters per square
meter it will generally allow service walk ways and other
infrastructure needed for larger systems. This can vary
depending on the local climate. You must conduct local
tests of the system because these numbers will vary by region and by
micro climate.
Difference between A2WH and other systems
Our unit does not use refrigeration at all and can deliver water with a
much lower long term cost once the total operational and energy costs
are factored in.
Other units typically consume anywhere from 2,000 up to 6,000 watts per
gallon using what is basically a air conditioner to chill air to the
dew point. At $0.15 per Kwh this means their units will
consume $0.30 to $0.90 in power per gallon
produced. If you amortize this power cost into their
costs then the unit producing 1 gallon per day will cost somewhere
around an additional $2190 over a 20 year life (even more if you allow
for increasing electricity prices). When you
add wholesale initial acquisition cost of $800 for your unit it comes
out at $2990 which is 190% our cost even comparing our retail to their
wholesale.
We did an analysis for a guy in Sanderson TX which indicated the need
for a $23,000 solar array to run a competitors 6 gallon per day system
in his area. Even if you divide by 6 to reach a 1 gallon
per day system it equal $3,833 for the solar array plus the $800 for
the kiosk style unit which places their costs at $46334 which is 308%
of our cost.
Capital Intensive Deployment
You should be aware that with our solar powered unit the capital
cost generally runs many times that of the grid powered units.
This is offset by a much lower operation cost. The A2WH system
requires an investment model similar to large scale photo voltaic or
large scale wind systems which are capital intensive.
In some areas the electricity cost for a normal electric powered AWG
unit can be as high as $1.20 a gallon with $0.40 per gallon typical
depending on climate.
Our A2WH system delivers costs closer to $0.12 per gallon for
multi-thousand gallon systems but you pay for the entire 20 year
production up front. Very large systems can
range down to under $0.01 per gallon which can make the system more
cost effective than any electric refrigeration based system once energy
costs are factored in.
From a commissioned agent perspective high initial capital is good
since it maximizes commissions. You do not get any commission on
the electricity costs which are the major cost drivers for the other
technologies.
The critical aspect of every sale is to get the customer thinking about
minimizing long term operational costs rather than minimizing capital
outlay.
Proof and Reference
We have a small number of units in the field in remote locations
USA. Plan on installing your own reference sites. If
you do not have the ability to fund your own reference sites then you
do not have the resources to be a distributer.
We are privately funded growing from margins so we do not have the
level of exposure the major companies normally expect and are
comfortable with.
Based on our current contact with the major corporations the most we
would expect them to fund is a 300 to 1,000 gallon system that they can
use as a test bed to validate suitability to for their business and
they will want 2 years of operating data at this scale before taking
the risk for a production system. The only place we
have not seen this true is where existing or near term water shortages
risk idling their plant. In these instances saving as
little as two weeks production at the plant can pay for the system.
Discount model
We follow a
similar pricing curve to that used in the electronics industry here in
the USA. You can look at the price for most components
on Digi-key and have a good idea of our pricing curve.
Current Production Capacity
Our current production capacity is limited to units from 5 liters
per
day up to 600 liters per day. The technology can scale into
several
million liters per day but our current facility is not large enough to
store work in transit between stations for more than 600 liters
per
day.
Importing into countries outside of the USA
A2WH is only accepting orders in the
USA. To ship units into a new country requires that we
file a local patent in that country. We have chosen to defer this
expense until the demand for units in that country justify the expense.
Our policy is that the first order
shipped into a new country must be large enough to pay for the filing
costs in that country. Smaller orders can be accepted but the
filing costs will be added to the price of the unit and repaid to the
initial importer at as an additional discount of 7% of gross until they
have recouped the filing fees.
Typical prices
These prices are representative. All costs are basic estimates and are
influenced by region and fluctuating materials costs. All orders
must
be pre-paid and we lock prices in when the payment is received by
pre-purchasing the supplies at that time.
- During 2009 we plan to list our standardized unit as a 3 to
8 liter per day system on the USA market with a retail of $1995.00 Qty
5 price of this drops to $1750. At qty 5000 this drops to $1200.
- We recently prepared a budgetary quote for a company who wanted
to purchase Qty 10 of a 100 liter per day system. This came out at
$24,000 each and at Qty 500 dropped to $17,000 each and at Qty 5,000
dropped to $12,000 each.
- A while back we made estimates for a group in Hawaii for systems
producing 300 gallons (1,135 liters) per day. At quantity 100 the
estimate came in at $93,000 each.
Limitations
No Travel to close deals
It is A2WH policy to not travel to
foreign countries to close deals. Even very large deals.
We can offer installation and consulting services but we
have encountered a high degree of fraud from countries trying to get us
to travel for final deal closure. If you have a deal that really
needs us present then you will need to break it up into smaller deals
that can be closed without our local presence. Once you have
established a paying relationship with us our risk from accepting
travel goes way down.
Agricultural use not generally viable
No technology is generally viable for
agriculture when water costs any more than $1,000 per acre
foot. Most farmers in the USA are paying less than $200 per
acre foot and even in California the quoted cost viability limit seems
to be around $800 per acre foot when growing premium crops such as
citrus and almonds.
The lowest we think A2WH can ever reach without fundamental technology
improvement is about $0.005 USD per gallon and that is only when
selling multiple 50 million gallon per day
systems. At $0.005 USD per gallon it
still represents a cost of $1,630 per acre foot. For
smaller systems say multiple 1 million gallon per day systems the cost
will be closer to $0.012 USD per gallon which works out to $3,910 USD
per acre foot.
This is comparable to the cost of coastal desalination ran from
diesel systems and then piped inland for more than 300 miles once the
full cost of energy, membranes, brine disposal, pipeline, pumps, and
plant are amortized in but it still seems to high to support
agriculture.
There are exceptions where especially for high value crops like citrus
where a small amount of high purity water can be used to desalinate
root zones which can triple production. It can also be viable to
keep expensive infrastructure crops alive during drought such as almond
groves which are expensive to replant.
We have been in contact with a USA state that is running a 3 million
acre foot per year deficit and the system seems to pay for it's self
there simply because it's allows continued economic growth where
they may be forced to start to restrict growth. In this
instance any impact of economic growth greater than 2% is enough to pay
for the system. In this instance a majority of the economic
growth impact is driven by residential construction and light industry
not agriculture.
Contact us for more information
Call 206-601-2985 or Send our
sales department an email.
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Joe is a distributed systems architect with experience at CTO, CEO,
VP and Principal architect positions. He has significant
experience solving very large distributed systems problems for Fortune
50 companies. Joe describes his rational for
his involvement in the A2WH,
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